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Post by Ladyfingers on Jul 3, 2023 2:21:06 GMT
I tend to want original releases (singles, EPs and album) and not compilations, but sometimes a compilation is the only way to get desirable rarities by a band.
One of the hings that irks me about them is that they tend to reflect an era earlier than the publication date. For instance, I have a House of Love compilation of everything they recorded on Creation Records between 1986 and 1988 (really the first album as released with the remainder tacked on the end), but the release is 2001. This means that, correctly tagged, this is the last album in my House of Love collection rather than the first.
I am now instituting a policy of compilations' dates being that of the latest song on the record, unless it's one of those purpose-oriented comps or singles collections that can stay at the end of the group's run.
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Post by Sprague Dawley on Jul 3, 2023 2:38:30 GMT
One of the hings that irks me about them is that they tend to reflect an era earlier than the publication date. For instance, I have a House of Love compilation of everything they recorded on Creation Records between 1986 and 1988 (really the first album as released with the remainder tacked on the end), but the release is 2001. This means that, correctly tagged, this is the last album in my House of Love collection rather than the first. 
All flippancy aside, comp lp's used to be handy for discovering new music but these days, with the youtube, just seem daft. I've sworn off em as for every 3 tracks I like on the fuckers, there will be another 7 songs I defo dont want to hear. Quick browse and I only have FIVE comp lp's ffs Various - Tuatara - A Flying Nun Compilation Chills Pink Frost 7" costs a billion yen so this will suffice
Various - Mutant Pop 78/79. Gang of 4 ep tacked on the end = keeper
Various - In Love With These Times. ffs Bailter Space's "Grader Spader" here on vinyl sounds like a different song compared to my dogshit cd version
Various - Dig This (A Tribute To The Great Strike) great Mekons live version of "Trouble Down South". Everything else by this band is a huge turnoff goddamnit
Various - Amphetamine Reptile >> Peel Sessions << Helmet "Sinatra" the only thing still tethering me to this |
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Post by Sprague Dawley on Jul 3, 2023 2:39:56 GMT
Oh, I seem to have confused compilations with Various Artists, oh well, too late now, damage done, no going back, etc, etc.
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Post by Ladyfingers on Jul 3, 2023 3:54:45 GMT
Oh, I seem to have confused compilations with Various Artists, oh well, too late now, damage done, no going back, etc, etc. I hate labelling my rips as various artists. I have a James Bond comp, so the track artists are all a-ha, Duran Duran, Shirley Bassey, Tom Jones etc, but I label the Album Artist as "James Bond", which I'm sure offends someone somewhere. |
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Post by fuckface on Jul 3, 2023 13:05:34 GMT
sometimes a good comp is all you need from someone. i have quite a few greatest hits type comps i love by acts i like, but feel no need to have own any of their lp's. y'know, all killer no filler type things.
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Post by sukebegg on Jul 5, 2023 16:02:16 GMT
I vaguely remember an audiophile friend ranting to me about how "Best of's" are only good if picked by the group or producer, not just their hits...For whatever that's worth. Out of nowhere, my older brother gave me this John Fahey double-CD retrospective with liner notes by Doctor Demento! www.discogs.com/release/3068403-John-Fahey-Return-Of-The-Repressed-The-John-Fahey-AnthologyI almost slapped someone when they said this sounded like John Denver! Definitely the soundtrack for some psychedelic trips in my yut' Oh yeah, that same audiophile friend hipped me to the Mahavishnu Orchestra through a 90-minute "Best of" cassette that he hand-selected for me. Written on one side: John "And I can even play it with my feet" McLaughlin. Who knew I would grow to like a band with electric violin. Greg Ginn thought that if he smoked enough pot, he could play like John, and in his mind he did apparently...The term Muscular Drumming was invented for Billy Cobham... I also played the Jam Snap compilation to death for a certain period of my life even though I had all the albums. Did the same with "SLF - All the Best" except it was really a double-lp comp of all their singles A and B sides, so a lot of later-period wimpy new wave like this song that I love just as much as the early punkier stuff... From that era also, The Clash - On Broadway - CD1 only - All the killer early singles. Black Market Clash was one of my first albums purchased, so stuff like this certainly transports me... Oh, and The Fall - A Sides was also my main introduction to them. Their hits for sure... Didn't think I had so much to say about this topic but...The Rolling Stones...This a giant compilation but if want Stones all afternoon, but don't want to buy their first eight albums...3-CD set that ends perfectly with "Sympathy for the Devil" www.discogs.com/master/54215-The-Rolling-Stones-Singles-Collection-The-London-YearsAnd the band played on... |
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Post by fuckface on Jul 16, 2023 1:36:15 GMT
the comps i have a mainly by '50s and '60s acts that had great singles but had patchy lp's.
people like for instance, bo diddly, jeery lee lewis, roy orbison, james brown, link wray, even the kinks and early strolling bones. they all had great songs on not so great lp's and all i want is the great songs without any filler.
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Post by nikkeisindex on Jul 18, 2023 9:24:45 GMT
This is the most deeply I have ever thought about the term "comp" vs "various artists." I also mean V/A. Vixen - Go Crazy
I missed the boat on this, my friend played the 7" which has a not bad cover (looks like early cock rock) and I was like ahhhh whatever (full disclosure, there are a lot of records played and a lot of alcohol consumed so I'm not methodically sorting and ranking in a right frame of mind) but later, look, simply remembering a song after 1 play goes a long way at some point... the cheesy male/female breakdown, it all works, it is memorable, and on 2nd listen, a little more powerpop than I initially thought. But I think the days of this selling reasonably are over -- and it's not THAT great. I am perfectly happy with this affordable comp version. I mean, I'm a busy guy but the extra 3 seconds to drop the needle on the comp track vs plop it on the 7" I can afford and yes the 7" probably sounds better but this is just not the record I'm going to the mat on. It is cool though. Did not notice until playing the comp that the first two lines are I met some freaks on cocaine We slit our wrists with no pain YEAH! |
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Post by sukebegg on Jul 18, 2023 15:11:21 GMT
And surely you have this prime piece of metal so the A side of that comp. stays pristine.
I tried to think more about comps but...it's late...I looked up the San Diego local Homegrown series and ran across this amidst the dreck (all the songs are horrendous odes to my hometown of San Diego and its locales- one with the KGB Chicken*!).
Only recording by this band, generic party on lyrics...San Diego is ultimately a very conservative place.
*For reference purposes
Simpler times bubba. Good night
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Post by Sprague Dawley on Oct 15, 2023 12:09:59 GMT
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Post by Ladyfingers on Oct 16, 2023 1:24:20 GMT
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Post by Sprague Dawley on Oct 16, 2023 2:04:48 GMT
If you actually want to HEAR a specific groove you are fucked. Literal needle in a haystack territory. I remember an old Mr Bungle LP had a hidden track that ran parallel to another track midway thru the lp. BUT it was impossible to cue up on purpose (a microscope might help) so if you wanted to hear it you'd just hope that when the needle came to the juncture where it split off - an actual tiny fork in the road - it would by chance veer off in that direction. |
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Post by Ladyfingers on Oct 16, 2023 4:05:27 GMT
If you actually want to HEAR a specific groove you are fucked. Literal needle in a haystack territory. I remember an old Mr Bungle LP had a hidden track that ran parallel to another track midway thru the lp. BUT it was impossible to cue up on purpose (a microscope might help) so if you wanted to hear it you'd just hope that when the needle came to the juncture where it split off - an actual tiny fork in the road - it would by chance veer off in that direction. I wonder if some champ has put the lock groove record on SoulSeek. I'll have to have a look. |
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Post by fuckface on Oct 16, 2023 7:31:56 GMT
had the 7" one with 100 locked grooves since it came out www.discogs.com/release/4908642-Various-RRR-100its a great end of party record. a novelty record. trick is to just randomly plonk the needle in a few grooves until one works. then let it sit in there for awhile. then randomly try another. some grooves work better as forever loops than others. never been arsed trying figure out who a particular track is by or re-find it. not sure how you even could work out exactly which groove belongs to who once your more than a few in from the edge. each track being just one revolution they're crammed super close to each other. you'd need eagle eyes and the memory of a super computer to work it out. when i do put it on (probably once every five years or so) its usually late at night after a few too many drinks and or whatever, when other weird shit isn't weird enuf anymore. good fun. |
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Post by Sprague Dawley on Oct 16, 2023 7:39:38 GMT
Bit reminscent of this radio rental little 7" I bought in bulk for my store from the mighty fine people at Slap A Ham:  |
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Post by Sprague Dawley on Oct 16, 2023 7:43:29 GMT
I wonder if some champ has put the lock groove record on SoulSeek. I'll have to have a look. was this one: |
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Post by Ladyfingers on Oct 16, 2023 11:40:18 GMT
had the 7" one with 100 locked grooves since it came out www.discogs.com/release/4908642-Various-RRR-100its a great end of party record. a novelty record. trick is to just randomly plonk the needle in a few grooves until one works. then let it sit in there for awhile. then randomly try another. some grooves work better as forever loops than others. never been arsed trying figure out who a particular track is by or re-find it. not sure how you even could work out exactly which groove belongs to who once your more than a few in from the edge. each track being just one revolution they're crammed super close to each other. you'd need eagle eyes and the memory of a super computer to work it out. when i do put it on (probably once every five years or so) its usually late at night after a few too many drinks and or whatever, when other weird shit isn't weird enuf anymore. good fun. I found someone with the 500 lock grooves on SoulSeek. I wonder how the starting point of a locked groove track is determined, I mean, I know it's actually irrelevant, but I still tend to break up all media mentally into little digital blocks. |
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