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Post by Ladyfingers on May 31, 2020 13:49:32 GMT
Very entertaining but also so eye-rollingly ham-fisted in its politics that I caught myself audibly groaning. The klansmen are such one-note, pathetic, inbred imbeciles that putting Trump quotes in their mouths and bookending the movie with Charlottesville footage feels more desperate than cautionary. There are some great moments and some interesting conversations between characters, but at times the dialogue is also embarrassingly awful and unnatural. It's a mixed bag, but the highs are pretty high.
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Post by Sprague Dawley on Feb 17, 2021 2:03:07 GMT
Wouldnt mind seeing this but The Vic's review not exactlly filling my todger with squealing glee. The klansmen are such one-note, pathetic, inbred imbeciles that putting Trump quotes in their mouths and bookending the movie with Charlottesville footage feels more desperate than cautionary. Recent seppo history might want a wee word. If anything, thats exactly what these drongos appear to be!
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Post by Ladyfingers on Feb 17, 2021 3:28:10 GMT
Wouldnt mind seeing this but The Vic's review not exactlly filling my todger with squealing glee. The klansmen are such one-note, pathetic, inbred imbeciles that putting Trump quotes in their mouths and bookending the movie with Charlottesville footage feels more desperate than cautionary. Recent seppo history might want a wee word. If anything, thats exactly what these drongos appear to be! Klansmen, obviously, have absolutely terrible, inexcusable ideas, but most of them are a product of their social milieu, and many of them are highly intelligent people. You should listen to Daryl Davis' stories about how he deradicalised and dissolved entire Klan chapters by befriending them, though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 8:02:52 GMT
Very entertaining but also so eye-rollingly ham-fisted in its politics that I caught myself audibly groaning. The klansmen are such one-note, pathetic, inbred imbeciles that putting Trump quotes in their mouths and bookending the movie with Charlottesville footage feels more desperate than cautionary. There are some great moments and some interesting conversations between characters, but at times the dialogue is also embarrassingly awful and unnatural. It's a mixed bag, but the highs are pretty high. I felt similarly, although I didn't mind the Trump-quotes (though the scene where Stallworth said something to the effect of "America will never be stupid enough to elect someone like David Duke" should've gone), and I actually liked the use of the Charlottesville footage at the end, as a way to subvert the message that typical period race relations movies from Hollywood usually make, to show that despite whatever progress we've made as a country on that front, we're still a long way from being perfect. There are moment of subtlety in it, too, like the moment where the black waiter has to politely serve the klansmen at the country club, without Lee putting any more of a point on it, leaving it entirely up to us to perceive the inherent fucked-upness of the power dynamics of that scene. I do agree that the characterizations of most of the klansmen depends too much on broad caricatures, not conveying the hidden insidiousness of racism, in the sense that any random, normal-seeming person you see could be in the Klan (as opposed to being a total psycho or an obese mouth-breathing loser), and the storytelling is a bit messy (like Ron's girlfriend disappearing for what feels like half the movie), but it's still direct and impactful enough with its messages that it can't help but hit a lot of them, enough to make up for the ones it misses, and still be a good movie in the end.
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Post by Ladyfingers on Feb 18, 2021 10:17:27 GMT
Very entertaining but also so eye-rollingly ham-fisted in its politics that I caught myself audibly groaning. The klansmen are such one-note, pathetic, inbred imbeciles that putting Trump quotes in their mouths and bookending the movie with Charlottesville footage feels more desperate than cautionary. There are some great moments and some interesting conversations between characters, but at times the dialogue is also embarrassingly awful and unnatural. It's a mixed bag, but the highs are pretty high. I felt similarly, although I didn't mind the Trump-quotes (though the scene where Stallworth said something to the effect of "America will never be stupid enough to elect someone like David Duke" should've gone), and I actually liked the use of the Charlottesville footage at the end, as a way to subvert the message that typical period race relations movies from Hollywood usually make, to show that despite whatever progress we've made as a country on that front, we're still a long way from being perfect. There are moment of subtlety in it, too, like the moment where the black waiter has to politely serve the klansmen at the country club, without Lee putting any more of a point on it, leaving it entirely up to us to perceive the inherent fucked-upness of the power dynamics of that scene. I do agree that the characterizations of most of the klansmen depends too much on broad caricatures, not conveying the hidden insidiousness of racism, in the sense that any random, normal-seeming person you see could be in the Klan (as opposed to being a total psycho or an obese mouth-breathing loser), and the storytelling is a bit messy (like Ron's girlfriend disappearing for what feels like half the movie), but it's still direct and impactful enough with its messages that it can't help but hit a lot of them, enough to make up for the ones it misses, and still be a good movie in the end. It is mostly good, yep.
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Post by Sprague Dawley on Feb 21, 2021 12:54:59 GMT
This thing dragged like fuck. So boring. Didnt help I watched it straight after "Do The Right Thing". Reminded me of aging rockers who keep playing their "cutting edge" stuff, and they can do it convincingly, but the spark of youth is gone.
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Post by pussycat on Feb 27, 2021 14:12:29 GMT
I’m pretty sure I saw this movie, but don’t remember a thing about it. Adam Driver makes me wanna drive into a wall, if ya know what i mean.
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